Reponses

14 REPONSES 1.Reference Jean Chesneaux, Secret Societies, CSWT, 1:1. There is at the University of Washington, Seattle, a manuscript in Russian written by V.A. Kormazov who lived many years in Harbin, and collected local lore and personal experiences concerning the Hung-hu-tzu. One of our students was for a while interested in making use of this material, and had a draft English translation of the manuscript made. As he has in the meantime switched to other pursuits, the material is left unexplolted. We would gladly put it at the disposal of anyone to whom it might be of some use. Hellmut Wilhelm, University of Washington, Dept of Far Eastern and Slavic Languages and Literature, Seattle, Washington 98105. 2.Reference Ping-ti Ho, Ch'lng Sources, CSWT1 1:1. a.Our library has a number of rare ti-fang-ehih which are not listed in the standard handbooks. If plans are made to have the ti-fang-chih made more widely accessible, these might also be taken into consideration. Hellmut Wilhelm, address as above. b.I completely subscribe to Ping-ti Ho' s pleas for large-scale reproduction of sources. But practically everybody disregards the fact that the language of the ruling Manchu minority was Manchu, and that in a number of cases the Chinese sources are second-hand, translations from the Manchu. My plea is therefore to compile a Union Catalogue of Manchu holdings in U.S. libraries. Since Manchu works are rare, all information is welcome. A project is now under way in Germany to translate the new Man-wen lao-tang edition produced over the last few years by the Toyo Bunko. 15 Herbert Franke, Universität München, Seminar für Ostasiatishche Kultur-und Sprachwissenschaft, München 22, Geschw.-Scholl-Platz 3/454, Germany. 3. My field is historical geography, with especial reference to Tibet, but also China generally. If I can be of assistance to members of the Society for Ch' ing Studies regarding Chinese toponymy, locations of places, and Chinese cartography, I will be very happy to help. H. D, Talbot, University of Hong Kong, Department of Geography and Geology, Hong Kong. REPRINTS: Comment There has been favorable reaction by members to Ping-ti Ho* s remarks about the urgent need for reprints of major Ch' ing sources (CSWT. 1:1), but few practical suggestions. The only specific recommendation for reprinting received was for the Ch'ing-tai wai-chiao shih-liao }^ 'ii £\· ^C $* fil·* ttt 10 tS'e' Palace Mu8eum ed· 1^l"33. which KJ covers the years 1796-1831. Herbert Franke has pointed to the need for some listing of Manchu works held in U.S. libraries. This raises the endemic question of the relevance of a knowledge of Manchu to a serious study of early Ch'lng history: do members feel that more time should be devoted to the study of Manchu, and are there enough important sources to warrant the effort? Do members feel that it would be valuable to compile a catalogue of Manchu titles in the U.S.A. (and Europe) or is there enough information in the recently published Catalogue of the Manchu-Mongol 16 Section of the Toyo Bunko, ed, Nicholas Poppe, Leon Hurvitz, and Hidehiro Okada. Seattle, University of Washington Press, 1964. While waiting answers to these questions, and hoping for more positive suggestions as to really useful source material that needs reprinting , it seems adequate to refer members once again to the work of Robert L. Irick, Director, Chinese Materials and Research Aids Service Center, P.O. Box 22048, Taipei, Taiwan. Of special interest will be the lists compiled by Ping-ti Ho and T.H, Tsien, sent out by CMRASC in March 1965, requesting orders for such basic works as the Pa-ch'i t'ung-chih (History and Organization of the Eight Banners), the K'ang-hsi hui-tien, the administrative precedents of the Six Boards (the Hu-pu tse-li. Kung-pu tse-li. etc), and for five Salt Gazetteers, to name Just a few. Basic collections of documents such as the Shih-liao ts'ung-k'an and Wen-hsien ts'ung-pien have been available...